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Another Interruption. Ah, Fame. *eyeroll*

  • Oct. 4th, 2006 at 2:00 AM
Brad @ Burning Man
The St. Louis Riverfront Times seems to have just hired a reporter from Queens. She knows nobody in town, but has half an idea of writing something about "the challenges of being Pagan in the midwest," and mine was the name and phone number that turned up for her in Google. (The RFT must not have much of a "morgue" or must not have told her to or let her use it if they do. She showed no awareness that I've been on the cover of the RFT before.) I told her I've been out of the Pagan community for about two years now, but I'd talk to some people and have someone get back to her. Honestly, I'm not even sure who I should talk to. It's not that I don't know any local Pagans, I probably know a couple of hundred of them. A better question is, especially since CAST went down the crapper, who do I know who can meaningfully speak for the community any more, and equally important, who do I know who knows how to talk to reporters?

So I'm no sooner wrapping up that conversation than she asks, "Oh, by the way, does St Louis have a polyamory community?" She's also thinking of doing a story about "the challenges of being polyamorous in the Midwest." (Sense a pattern here?) I am still plugged in with what there is of an organized poly community here in St. Louis, but I'm even more conflicted about this request. I'll tell you why. It's because it is my firm opinion that there is no benefit whatsoever for the poly community to be talking to the Press in this legal climate. That it can only do harm. That it can only attract dangerous attention from the Division of Child and Family Services to the person who talks to the reporter or (worse) their non-volunteering friends, that it primarily serves to attract to the community people who aren't really poly and who therefore bring tons of drama with them, and that there is no legal or social agenda the poly community could pursue in this legal climate that could benefit in any way from even the most sympathetic news coverage.

If you're going to be at Archon, feel free to talk with me about this; I told her I'd probably have someone or someones call her back on Monday. It looks like you won't be the subject of a hack job; I googled her back (of course) and she treats her sources sympathetically. But before you volunteer, as someone who's had rather more than his 15 minutes of fame, let me tell you something about journalism. In his excellent (if a trifle dry) A History of News, one of Mitchell Stephens' insights to offer is that normal professional journalists (as opposed to that much rarer breed, investigative journalists) always "know" what the story they're going to write is going to be before they even talk to a single source. How do they do this? Stephens says that there are probably fewer than 200 stories that can be written, period, that anybody who reads or watches the news ever wants to hear. He calls these recurring news story outlines the ur-stories, meaning the primal or elemental news stories from which all later news stories are descended. So the reporter shows up at the scene of a news story with an outline of a story in their head, learned in journalism school, and all they need is three one-sentence quotes for color, and the correct spelling of each person's name. If it's an in-depth report, they go to their editor or publisher's rolodex and pull out the names of two "experts" who can be counted on to have opposing views on the subject and call each expert for another single-sentence quote. This is journalism as it is genuinely practiced. (Which, come to think of it, is relevant to what I was going to write tonight, more about that tomorrow.)

And it is my observation that there are only three ur-news stories that can possibly be written about a weird subculture or one of its members. I call them "Funny Zoo Animals," "Threat or Menace," and "Surprisingly Nice." And I'll tell you right now that the odds of you getting that last story are hundreds to one against. "Funny Zoo Animals" is the freak-show piece: look at the harmless, funny, crazy people. Aren't they so cute? And oh, look, there are even some in this town! Isn't that funny? It's always vaguely condescending in tone; that's what that story is about. People read it to reassure themselves that they're better off normal. "Threat or Menace" takes its name from an old Reader's Digest article about the Communist Party USA entitled: "Communism: Threat? or Menace?" Because in that story, that's the whole range of possible opinion given: either the weird subculture in question is an impending threat or an already-serious menace. The weirdos in question are portrayed as dangerously crazy, likely to do anything, and very interested in recruiting your spouse and your children. "Are your children safe?" Experts will be quoted who say no. Any quotes you give will be selected for how crazy and stupid they can make you sound, any expert quoted as being on your side will be hand-selected for how easily they can be dismissed by other experts.

No, the best you can ever hope against hope for is, "Surprisingly Nice," where the story starts off being how weird and silly (or weird and menacing) you and your subculture seem to be, still reinforcing one of those two stereotypes, "but (person's name) turned out to be surprisingly nice." This is the story that people try to get reporters to write when they talk to a reporter about some charity work that they've done, from Pagans or the KKK doing Adopt-a-Highway litter cleanup to biker gangs raising money for children's hospitals or veterans' hospitals. But reporters hate the "Surprisingly Nice" story because they take it for granted that they're being manipulated. They know that you're distorting how you really are in hopes of getting some favorable publicity, in hopes of getting somebody in particular or the public in general off of your back. So it takes a lot of years of very successful charity work to get a "Surprisingly Nice" story, and if you don't believe me, look at how many literal millions of dollars worth of charity Penny Arcade has done for impoverished children on behalf of computer- and console gamers and how little favorable publicity they've gotten for it. No, the only time you really have anything better than a very long shot chance at getting "Surprisingly Nice" is when some inexplicable tragedy hits. Cancer is OK, but having your child murdered is better. The best way to get a "Surprisingly Nice" story is to come down with some fatal, wasting disease that strikes truly at random but leaves you looking photogenic; that's always good for media sympathy. (Call it, if you will, the La Boheme variation on "Surprisingly Nice," as in yeah this person is very weird, but even journalists admit that nobody photogenic deserves an awful fate.) Otherwise, forget it; what you're going to end up in is "Funny Zoo Animals" or "Threat or Menace."

Comments

[info]kynn wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 07:44 am (UTC)
"The challenges of being a reporter from Queens in the midwest."
dkmnow wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 09:07 am (UTC)
*snerk*
[info]dmlaenker wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 08:33 am (UTC)
I'm not a fan of Penny Arcade. Their charity doesn't really make the comic more interesting to me or less heteronormative.

That said, I'm getting a whiff of flyover condescension from this reporter. What's she doing in St. Louis in the first place if the Midwest is such a perpetual struggle?
[info]dalziel_86 wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 09:40 am (UTC)
I'm really not seeing the logic in those first two sentences. What made you think their charity work was meant to make you a fan of the comic? What made you think it was meant to make them less heteronormative (whatever you mean by that in this context, cuz I'm having trouble figuring it out)?

The whole point of Penny Arcade's charity work is to make visible the fact that people who play video games aren't school-shooting maniacs or threats to The Merkin Way Of Life.

Where exactly do you believe you enter into this equation?
[info]dmlaenker wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 09:57 am (UTC)
I don't know, where do you fit into this equation?

I'm giving an aesthetic judgment about a comic that is too butch for me - a gay man who doesn't play console games - and you seem extraordinarily offended that anyone would do so.
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[info]mikosquirrel wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 03:25 pm (UTC)
Speaking as a gay man, people like you make me cringe.
[info]dmlaenker wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 04:47 pm (UTC)
Why is it that every time I get into a discussion here, it turns into a debate not about any aesthetic or political issue, but about either syntax or my human foibles?
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[info]bradhicks wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 08:09 pm (UTC)
I feel a powerful urge to delete this whole thread, because I really don't like how insulting to each other and everything else it got. I'll let it go for now, but really, people, play a little nice with each other.

What I guess I assumed my readers know (and in hindsight that was pretty dumb of me) is that for the last several years Penny Arcade has hosted a Christmas toy drive for poor children every year, one that's probably closing in on a million dollars raised so far, not to make themselves look better, but to make computer gamers and console gamers, their audience, look better. It's basically an attempt to use the "Surprisingly Nice" story to undo all of anti-gamer lawyer and one-man-moral-panic Fred Thompson's decade-long witchhunt attempting to prove that playing console games or computer games eventually turns you into an axe murderer or whatever.

It hasn't really worked so well. The kids are greatful for the toys, and the people who are doing the giving are getting the benefit of making their world a better place and getting to feel better about it, but compared to Thompson's "Threat or Menace" press releases it's gotten next to no attention, and much of the attention it has gotten the reporters have sabotaged it by labeling it as a PR stunt. That was my point.
[info]kinkyturtle wrote:
Oct. 5th, 2006 01:42 am (UTC)
You mean Jack Thompson, right?
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dkmnow wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 09:14 am (UTC)
Hasn't someone-or-other done a talking-points memo -- some wholly generic set of wholly generic remarks bemoaning "the challenges of being [ANY supposed minority, whether real or imaginary, inherent or constructed] in the Midwest"?

"The challenges of not being generic in the Midwest."

It seems too obvious not to have been done.
[info]bradhicks wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 08:21 pm (UTC)
That would be because there aren't any.

For every story of any of the following types you can find me in any town here in the Wimpy Zone ...
  • "I can't get a job because employers think I'm too weird."
  • "I lost my job because my boss thought I was too weird."
  • "My parents put me in therapy against my will because they thought I was too weird."
  • "My parents threw me out of the house because they thought I was too weird."
  • "My parents disowned me and cut me out of the will because they thought I was too weird."
  • "My spouse divorced me for being too weird."
  • "The Division of Child and Family Services took away my kids because they thought I was too weird."
  • "Journalists and cops are stereotyping people like me as dangerous criminals because they think we're too weird."
... I can find you a matching story, if you give me time to dig, even in New York City and San Francisco and Seattle, the three cities where it's supposedly "safe" to be weird or at leasts most people think so.

The only difference is a difference of sheer numbers and, at most, visibility. It used to be harder to find other people with the same weirdness as you anywhere other than those three cities, which used to lead to the problems associated with isolation, like loneliness and feelings of inadequacy and having nobody to help you overcome any of the above threats. Nowadays we have this thing called "the Internet" which makes it trivially easy for even weird tastes that are shared by, say, only six people on the whole planet to find each other, label themselves as a subculture, socialize online, and take care of each other. Perhaps you've heard of it. ("You're soaking in it.")
[info]harmfulguy wrote:
Oct. 5th, 2006 01:57 pm (UTC)
You might be able to write a story like that anywhere, but the writer were actually going into specifics, the details might vary from locale to locale. (Not that I'd expect to see that level of detail in a stock article.) Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a good article on "The challenges of not having gone to high school with anyone everybody else knows in St. Louis."
[info]kinkyturtle wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 09:17 am (UTC)
Funny you should call it "Funny Zoo Animals", since that's what us furries always seem to get. :}
[info]masque12 wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 11:37 am (UTC)
You guys are just fucked up.

(Note for the humor impaired: That was a joke.)
[info]kinkyturtle wrote:
Oct. 5th, 2006 01:44 am (UTC)
Aren't jokes usually funny, though?
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[info]nancylebov wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 09:19 am (UTC)
Somehow, sf fandom and sf has made the leap to being straight news, at least some of the time. I see newspaper stories and hear NPR reports, and I keep waiting for the insult, and it doesn't happen.

I suspect the change is the result of enough people realizing that it's possible to make money from sf, and that as a result of the IT revolution, it's more possible to make money while being a geek. I'd be interested in other theories, though.
[info]jahbulon wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 10:07 am (UTC)
What are you talking about? Sf?
[info]dmlaenker wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 10:47 am (UTC)
SF is a common abbreviation for "science fiction in literature".
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[info]thesecondcircle wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 11:58 am (UTC)
This writing style is, in the main, how I got through high school and college essays. I'd decide on my position, write the paper to support my point leaving gaps for appropriate quote to cite, and spend just enough time in the library quickly scanning books to find those quotes. In the days before computers, those were literal gaps. I'd cut the typewritten paper apart, tape in the photocopied quote, then retype.

I inevitably got good grades on these papers. Much better grades, in fact, than when I really studied a topic in depth and then wrote a full analysis based on the available body of literature and my own common sense. I can think of a few rare exceptions among my professors.

Oh, and I have a BA in English.

At this point in my life, I find that fact vaguely distressing and embarrassing. At the time it was just convenient.
[info]cartoonmayhem wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 02:35 pm (UTC)
The problem with these journalists is that they all wrote their papers this way in college or university. Often times the professor of that particular class would convey to the students what point of view to take, so the students had better write the papers that the professors would want to read. This learned behavious is what the students would take with them into professional life.
[info]phierma wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 03:17 pm (UTC)
Journalists: Threat or Menace?
(Anonymous) wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 07:08 pm (UTC)
Journalists: Threat or Menace?
ROFL!

Yes! Very well-timed, thank you.

(\/)
.\/ MAYA aka Purple
[info]bradhicks wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 08:13 pm (UTC)
"Is your subculture safe?" OK, you got me, but I'd like to point out just how unhappy you were with the news coverage you got when the Riverfront Times devoted a large, long, front-page-hyped story to Archon: Mike Seely, "Geeks Gone Wild," October 20th, 2004. And that was the good story, of the "Funny Zoo Animals" type.
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[info]samael7 wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2006 06:03 pm (UTC)
Oo, yeah. Tell your poly friends to run for the hills if this journalist comes a-knockin'.

The "private and consensual" aspect of one's life tends not to stay that way when it's in newsprint. But moreover, assuming one would want sympathetic content, would one get that in a hacked, edited, abbreviated newspaper story?

And aren't there other treatesies/manifestos of some quality on the subject? If the journalist isn't familiar with those, I wouldn't exchange any words with her until she is.

I most certainly sympathize with wanting, er, pathos from the public at large; or, sometimes, even just wanting to be left alone. But post-Geraldo, it's not a given. And then, there's the whole matter of Editors...
[info]ohari wrote:
Oct. 9th, 2006 11:03 pm (UTC)
After some thought and pointedly not reading sixty comments, send me her info, I do want to talk to her.
Chris@ambercastle.net.

Thankee.