There's a throw-away bit in Heinlein's Hugo Award winning novel, Glory Road, where the Vietnam combat veteran hero comments that there are two kinds of Army paymasters. One scours the rulebook all night looking for ways to cheat you out of what you're entitled to. The other scours the rulebook all night looking for ways to get you what you need, whether you're entitled to it or not. That idea is fresh in my mind because the root cause of my current bureaucratic snafu with the Social Security Administration is that, for complicated an irrelevant reasons, I have two benefits determination specialists: one of each kind. And through the panic attacks that this induces, trying desperately to think about anything else for a while, it occurred to me to go back over my life and add up the two kinds of "paymasters," and it seemed odd to me that as best as I can remember them all, they really did divide along this line almost exactly 50/50.
In an online chat room that I was in the other day, someone mentioned in passing some nervousness about having to pass through a black neighborhood. I responded, "I have seldom in my life felt safer than I do when I'm in a black neighborhood. For me, the face of terror wears a business suit." And this is why: because roughly half of the bureaucrats who have had any power over my life have used that power to hurt me in ways that I had no defense against. And I never could figure out what motivates them. But then, yesterday, an unrelated thought on yet another subject bumped up against this one, and I'm afraid I may finally understand what Hannah Arendt meant about "the banality of evil."
Most of you have, by now, seen the movie The Incredibles. When the movie begins, Mr. Incredible's secret identity job is as a claims processor for an insurance company. The company he works for has elaborate procedures in place specifically to make it seem, to insurance regulators, that they provide coverage to their customers, while making it impossible for customers to actually collect on their claims. Being a forcibly-retired superhero, though, Mr. Incredible can't always control his impulse to do good, so in that scene, when confronted by the suffering of an elderly client, he quietly and surreptitiously provides the precision instructions she needs on how to thread the bureaucratic maze to get her claim approved. He gets caught, because his manager sees that the claim got approved, knows that the customer couldn't possibly have figured it out on her own, and knows who processed her claim. So he calls Mr. Incredible on the carpet and chews him out for this. He meekly says, "I thought we (the insurance industry) were supposed to help people." His boss replies, "You're supposed to help our people! Starting with our stockholders! Who's helping them out, huh?"
We have legalized whole industries in this country that do nothing more than destroy human lives for profit. The tobacco industry, the casino industry, pay day loans, title loans, sub-par mortgage lenders, there are probably more that I can't even think of. They all justify their legality by claiming that their victims volunteer and could escape if they wanted to, but they structure their lures such that it takes only a single mistake to fall into their grasp, and structure their offerings such that once you do, not one person in a hundred will be able to find the way to escape. By the same logic that defends these industries, you might as well legalize and securitize mugging. After all, people choose whether to leave the house carrying money or not; if they don't want to be mugged, all they have to do is avoid muggers. And if they make the mistake of being in the same place as a mugger, it's not like they couldn't escape with their money if they really wanted to, if they showed a little initiative and can-do spirit.
So we'll franchise mugging. Corporations can hire muggers to go into neighborhoods where their research shows that people are still making the "mistake" of walking around with money and rob people at gunpoint. On salary, of course, although there'd be nothing wrong, by ordinary corporate logic, with offering annual performance-based bonuses as an incentive to mug more efficiently. After paying executive salaries, legal expenses, and interest on corporate financing, the remaining profits would be returned to the shareholders in the form of dividends. Companies that have fewer scruples, and therefore do a better job of mugging people, will buy out more scrupulous and therefore less efficient mugging firms. Corporate raiders will raise money on the junk bond market to buy out companies with mugging licenses that are hesitating to mug, say, little old ladies or cripples, and investors will cheerfully lend them that money because they know that by eliminating those scruples, the corporate raiders can increase the return to the shareholders. It's the magic of the marketplace, baby. By streamlining and improving the mugging process, we'll produce yet another profitable investment. Your insurance company will be able to invest dividends in mugging firms, reducing your premiums. Your pension fund will be able to invest in profitable mugging firms, improving your quality of life when you retire. And it won't cost the government one taxpayer dime.
And if you can see any reason why this can't be made legal, and can't work, then can you please explain to me how you reconcile your theory with the suspension of loan-sharking laws? Or the ever increasing expansion of places and ways to gamble? It used to be that only the Mafia loan sharked, and only the Mafia ran gambling joints and numbers rackets. Now payday loan places get away with robbing the poor through interest rates (carefully disguised by mis-labeling 90% of them as "fees") that would make the most hardened of old-school loan sharks blanch. And casinos get away with promotions that any old-time numbers racketeer would scruple over, because at least the old-school Mafia racketeers knew that if you fleece a problem gambler for his whole paycheck and he commits suicide, you just lost a customer. Except now, loan sharking and gambling have been taken away from the Mafia, and handed over to publicly traded companies. And publicly traded companies, who are required by current law to be total psychopaths, destroy more people than the Mafia ever did, and while doing less good for their neighborhoods.
That first kind of "paymaster," the bureaucrat or clerk or functionary who doesn't care that their decision destroys the actual human life in front of them, or on the phone with them, in order to protect the investments of a large mass of faceless investors, or the hypothetical interests of taxpayers, or out of gratitude to the company that pays the salary that feeds their own children, or some other principle that I can't imagine? I could never be that person. There are now two new payday loan places within a few blocks of here. Both are within a couple of blocks of here. Both have increasingly desperate sounding "Help Wanted" signs in their windows, like the other one that was already there. (Yes, in fact, I do know what a bad sign it is for my neighborhood that we have three payday loan places within four blocks or so of my apartment.) When it looked like things were going completely down the toilet and I was going to be homeless again, the socially responsible part of me kept asking how I could justify not getting work when I knew there were places within walking distance that were desperate enough even to hire a mildly crazy guy like me. How thrilled they'd be, given that they're a business that has to keep cash on the premises, to have a big scary looking and not-easily-intimidated guy behind the counter. Sure, I could have found work. And killed myself within three days. I could never look at myself in the mirror, never sleep again, never eat so much as a single sandwich if what I did for a living was destroy people's lives. But I guess I'm finally starting to figure out how some of the people who work in such jobs do it, which must be some kind of progress. Or something.
In an online chat room that I was in the other day, someone mentioned in passing some nervousness about having to pass through a black neighborhood. I responded, "I have seldom in my life felt safer than I do when I'm in a black neighborhood. For me, the face of terror wears a business suit." And this is why: because roughly half of the bureaucrats who have had any power over my life have used that power to hurt me in ways that I had no defense against. And I never could figure out what motivates them. But then, yesterday, an unrelated thought on yet another subject bumped up against this one, and I'm afraid I may finally understand what Hannah Arendt meant about "the banality of evil."
Most of you have, by now, seen the movie The Incredibles. When the movie begins, Mr. Incredible's secret identity job is as a claims processor for an insurance company. The company he works for has elaborate procedures in place specifically to make it seem, to insurance regulators, that they provide coverage to their customers, while making it impossible for customers to actually collect on their claims. Being a forcibly-retired superhero, though, Mr. Incredible can't always control his impulse to do good, so in that scene, when confronted by the suffering of an elderly client, he quietly and surreptitiously provides the precision instructions she needs on how to thread the bureaucratic maze to get her claim approved. He gets caught, because his manager sees that the claim got approved, knows that the customer couldn't possibly have figured it out on her own, and knows who processed her claim. So he calls Mr. Incredible on the carpet and chews him out for this. He meekly says, "I thought we (the insurance industry) were supposed to help people." His boss replies, "You're supposed to help our people! Starting with our stockholders! Who's helping them out, huh?"
We have legalized whole industries in this country that do nothing more than destroy human lives for profit. The tobacco industry, the casino industry, pay day loans, title loans, sub-par mortgage lenders, there are probably more that I can't even think of. They all justify their legality by claiming that their victims volunteer and could escape if they wanted to, but they structure their lures such that it takes only a single mistake to fall into their grasp, and structure their offerings such that once you do, not one person in a hundred will be able to find the way to escape. By the same logic that defends these industries, you might as well legalize and securitize mugging. After all, people choose whether to leave the house carrying money or not; if they don't want to be mugged, all they have to do is avoid muggers. And if they make the mistake of being in the same place as a mugger, it's not like they couldn't escape with their money if they really wanted to, if they showed a little initiative and can-do spirit.
So we'll franchise mugging. Corporations can hire muggers to go into neighborhoods where their research shows that people are still making the "mistake" of walking around with money and rob people at gunpoint. On salary, of course, although there'd be nothing wrong, by ordinary corporate logic, with offering annual performance-based bonuses as an incentive to mug more efficiently. After paying executive salaries, legal expenses, and interest on corporate financing, the remaining profits would be returned to the shareholders in the form of dividends. Companies that have fewer scruples, and therefore do a better job of mugging people, will buy out more scrupulous and therefore less efficient mugging firms. Corporate raiders will raise money on the junk bond market to buy out companies with mugging licenses that are hesitating to mug, say, little old ladies or cripples, and investors will cheerfully lend them that money because they know that by eliminating those scruples, the corporate raiders can increase the return to the shareholders. It's the magic of the marketplace, baby. By streamlining and improving the mugging process, we'll produce yet another profitable investment. Your insurance company will be able to invest dividends in mugging firms, reducing your premiums. Your pension fund will be able to invest in profitable mugging firms, improving your quality of life when you retire. And it won't cost the government one taxpayer dime.
And if you can see any reason why this can't be made legal, and can't work, then can you please explain to me how you reconcile your theory with the suspension of loan-sharking laws? Or the ever increasing expansion of places and ways to gamble? It used to be that only the Mafia loan sharked, and only the Mafia ran gambling joints and numbers rackets. Now payday loan places get away with robbing the poor through interest rates (carefully disguised by mis-labeling 90% of them as "fees") that would make the most hardened of old-school loan sharks blanch. And casinos get away with promotions that any old-time numbers racketeer would scruple over, because at least the old-school Mafia racketeers knew that if you fleece a problem gambler for his whole paycheck and he commits suicide, you just lost a customer. Except now, loan sharking and gambling have been taken away from the Mafia, and handed over to publicly traded companies. And publicly traded companies, who are required by current law to be total psychopaths, destroy more people than the Mafia ever did, and while doing less good for their neighborhoods.
That first kind of "paymaster," the bureaucrat or clerk or functionary who doesn't care that their decision destroys the actual human life in front of them, or on the phone with them, in order to protect the investments of a large mass of faceless investors, or the hypothetical interests of taxpayers, or out of gratitude to the company that pays the salary that feeds their own children, or some other principle that I can't imagine? I could never be that person. There are now two new payday loan places within a few blocks of here. Both are within a couple of blocks of here. Both have increasingly desperate sounding "Help Wanted" signs in their windows, like the other one that was already there. (Yes, in fact, I do know what a bad sign it is for my neighborhood that we have three payday loan places within four blocks or so of my apartment.) When it looked like things were going completely down the toilet and I was going to be homeless again, the socially responsible part of me kept asking how I could justify not getting work when I knew there were places within walking distance that were desperate enough even to hire a mildly crazy guy like me. How thrilled they'd be, given that they're a business that has to keep cash on the premises, to have a big scary looking and not-easily-intimidated guy behind the counter. Sure, I could have found work. And killed myself within three days. I could never look at myself in the mirror, never sleep again, never eat so much as a single sandwich if what I did for a living was destroy people's lives. But I guess I'm finally starting to figure out how some of the people who work in such jobs do it, which must be some kind of progress. Or something.
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Yup. And we finance them too.
So we'll franchise mugging. Corporations can hire muggers to go into neighborhoods where their research show that people are still making the "mistake" of walking around with money and rob people at gunpoint.
I think Terry Pratchett has explored something like this with the Thieves' Guild in his Discworld books.
Natural Disasters, the market goes up.
Companies laying off people, shares go up.
Stable company performing exactly the same as the year prior, shares go down.
Company offering decent wages and health care, shares go down and they're pressure to conform to their competitors.
It's like having a screaming asshole cheering whenever something bad happens, like watching the middle east after 9/11. I must agree with Hannah Arendt
It's utterly uncaring, which is even worse.
But I digress. I started in bank cards: Mastercard and Visa. For 18 months I did my collections job as correctly as possible, but in the final six months, I grew increasingly restive, as the mental gymnastics necessary to do what is essentially evil became harder and harder to do. For a change of pace, I transferred to a gasoline cards unit, handling calls from those who were past-due on their Texaco, Shell, Citgo, BP/Amoco, Conoco, Phillips 66, Union 76, and Sunoco cards*.
The difference was dramatic. The bank cards unit treated customers like crap, with the highest fees in the industry and a no-strikes rule for raising interest to the default rate (>30% at the time I left) for the slightest delay in payment. Gasoline cards was worse. The interest rates were higher, and the fees were vastly out of proportion to the small balances. Unlike bank cards, we were dealing almost exclusively with low-income people who could get an Amoco card but could not get a Mastercard/Visa. A customer with a $200 limit who had gone over by a few pennies was cut off from making further purchases, no exceptions. A customer who was a day late was cut off, again, no exceptions. The hardest calls for me to take were the ones from people who said they were 200 miles from home with their family in the car, and their card had just stopped working. We would not get them home. I talked to someone in this position ten times a day, and it got harder and harder to take, as there was absolutely nothing I could do to help them.
Then a category 4/5 hurricane named Katrina came, and the calls began pouring in from Louisiana and Mississippi. People needed to use their cards which were $1 over the limit for a tank of gas to save their lives. We would not.
I quit.
There's no point to this, really. I just had to tell someone. Thanks.
(* Often a customer would lose patience with us and shout that they would cut up their card and take a new account with a different oil company, and they would almost always name a different brand that we owned. Our usual response was to laugh at them.)
YAY!
Seriously, you should be happy you walked away from that.
Given the ability of employers or the public sector to determine care boundaries, I could, but will not, name several very profitable big companies who save quite a bit of money on their benefits by limiting access to care under specific circumstances. While these plans are ostensibly PPO, and they supposedly have out of plan benefits, sometimes I wonder if the goal is to prevent people from using those benefits. Between benefits that allow only a maximum of $50 for services, to those that require reauthorization every 3 months, there are a ton of tricks that are used to limit the amount that the company has to pay into the benefit plan. Things like medically necessary care should not held to some corporately profitable scheme, because it will act as a boundary to service.
As my company is privately held, we can keep our focus on providing care within the contracts that we have signed with the payers of the plans. If we were publicly held, I shudder to think what would happen. I know I can help people within the guidelines that we have been told that members can be helped.
Not so much that what I was doing was ripping people off (it was pretty much the opposite, in fact), but that one of the individuals I worked for was remarkably similar to Mr. Huff in some ways (he had less hair, however). He was all about financials and org charts and marketing plans that really did not suit my practice. Big firm practice is for the birds, and since I left the old firm to go work inhouse for a client, I've worn my suits maybe half a dozen times. And I don't miss them one bit.
And The Incredibles, which was a phenominal movie on just about every level, had a WHOOOOLE lot o'socio-political commentary going on behind that innocuous kiddy-film facade. Not to mention nods to Alan Moore's magnificent Watchmen, classic James Bond homages, and the best end-titles sequence ever filmed.
I would add "student loan companies" to the list, but otherwise I honestly don't think I could agree more.
"Can you imagine me coming home from some job feeling good at the end of the day?"
And yeah, I did a lot of the "Listen, this other service plan costs half as much as the one you're on right now, and is a much better fit based on your usage."
There was this point they kept making during our training that the president must have missed. "A happy customer is better than an unhappy customer." I only say that because he kept doing things that made our customers unhappy, and they kept going away. Funny thing, that.
Are there people with a gambling problem who should never set foot inside a casino? Yes. There are also people with sex addictions, who will happily throw all their money away at a strip-club, and end up destitute- should we close all strip-clubs? How about the drunks who ruin their lives? Should we close the bars?
Let's contrast these cases to the other example you gave- payday loans. I agree- those places are fucking evil. But there is a really large difference between payday loan companies and casinos- the clientele. I am sure that poor people often go to a casino (and people who drop money they can't really afford to lose.)- but I don't think you will often see a Lexus parked at a payday loan place, unless its the owner's.
Payday loan establishments exist solely to prey upon the poor. They exist solely because we have pretty much written off a whole segment of our population, because so many people here are stuck living from paycheck to paycheck. Unfortunately, just closing them down won't alter the fundamental fact that a lot of people in this country are screwed- it might actually make things worse for the people you are trying to help.
I used to work with a woman who had put herself on the do-not-admit list for gambling addicts, both with the individual casinos and with the state registry that all the casinos are legally required to check. This didn't stop the local casinos from sending her monthly complementary passes and other advertising materials, and offering her various economic incentives to come in and gamble. When she asked one of them about this, they advised her that they couldn't let her in with her own ID, but helpfully explained to her that if she brought in a friend's ID that wasn't on the do-not-admit list she could come in and gamble just fine. And even while under court supervision from her bankruptcy and attending Gambler's Anonymous meetings, the casinos were still finding ways to cheat her out of the money she needed to buy groceries and make her car payment.
Sorry, no. If the gaming industry operated with at least the integrity and decency of a mafia numbers racketeer, I would be mostly fine with them. But they don't.
In the middle was: I have seldom in my life felt safer than I do when I'm in a black neighborhood. For me, the face of terror wears a business suit. I don't agree with your premise, but I'll accept it, and give our disagreement about that a pass.
My point is that big government bureaucracies have limited connection to the suits in the corporate world. Unless you include the socialistic argument. At least Corporations have a motive. All of the ugly bits of capitalism may be worthy of your rancor, but those persecuting you just now are of a separate construct - big government.
The face of terror for me is imaged in the faceless government bureaucrats who have no interest in their subjects.
Are you telling me that it is your perception that evil people only work for the government, never for corporations?
I feel much better about working in corporate security. Yes, we protect the ill-gotten gains of thieving scum. But at least we're not doing the stealing ourselves . . .
hm,
phil.
I am currently working three jobs. In one of those jobs, the *entire* pay (a full-time job wage averaging after tax the equivalent of about $300 US per week) is going on paying just the *BANK CHARGES* because cheques to payday loan places bounced, because I borrowed an initial amount equivalent to about $600 US because I needed it to pay my rent after losing one job. That initial amount ballooned as I couldn't earn fast enough to pay it back, and has become several thousand in less than 6 months. Now the cheques are bouncing because even working three jobs I can't pay the interest, and the bank charges, and the interest on the interest on the charges, and so on.
Last month, when I was working only two jobs, I actually managed to reduce the total amount of debt I owe for the first time in months. I reduced it by a total of eight pounds (about $16). I actually consider that a success...
And you're right about government - at least there are *some* people working for the government who will do what they can to help. When I was unemployed a few years ago, I had a holiday booked before I became unemployed. I phoned up the dole office to tell them "I won't be able to make it in to sign this week, I'll be on holiday in America. What should I do?"
"I'm sorry, did you say you were *camping in Scotland"?"
"What?"
"As you will probably know, people on foreign holidays lose their benefits. However, since you're *camping in Scotland with your family*, aren't you, you'll be able to keep yours..."
"Oh yes, that's right, I'm camping in Scotland"
But even given all that, the unfortunate thing is that even the most minimal of hoops to jump through will eliminate those who most need it. A while after that, I was actually working for the benefits agency, for a department that gave one-time cash handouts to people in deprived areas to help them get work (money for, say, a suit for an interview, or a bus pass for their first month in the job, that sort of thing). However, as well as living in a deprived area, they also had to provide some kind of additional reason why they couldn't get work (why, I don't know...).
We went to a college that did part-time courses for unemployed people, and went round signing them up onto this scheme, and this is the conversation I had with one bloke there:
"Right, in order to give you this money, we have to have some additional reason. [Goes through most of the checkboxes, not an ethnic minority, not disabled etc]. Now, the last question. Remember, *WE CAN'T ASK YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT THIS*, do you have any illnesses at all that make keeping a job difficult?"
"No... shit... that means I can't get the money, doesn't it?"
"Yes, I'm afraid so. So are you *sure* you don't have any illnesses? Do you, for example, have occasional migraine headaches, or a bad back, or any other illness with *NO OBVIOUS PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS* and which *WE CAN'T ASK YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT* but which would mean *WE CAN GIVE YOU ALL THIS FREE MONEY*?"
(almost in tears) "No. Damn..."
His teacher had come over during the last few sentences of this, and said "What about those fainting spells you have all the time?"
"Oh... I didn't think that would count..."
I have a horrible suspicion that any benefits provision that requires anything more than turning up and saying "Can I have some money please?" will inevitably leave out those who are most in need... but I can't think of a decent way to fix that...
I agree with what you said “We have legalized whole industries in this country that do nothing more than destroy human lives for profit - - tobacco industry, the casino industry, pay day loans, title loans, sub-par mortgage lenders.”
However, on insurance companies and payday loan lenders, I think they are here to help. Insurance acts like a forced savings that when an emergency comes, you can get money from it.
Because most of us do not have a sufficient emergency fund in the bank, most do not even have an emergency fund at all - so like in my case, I often turn on getting a payday loan.
To me, it is fast cash to cover a financial emergency. I have used it to pay for my son’s medication, to pay my due credit card bill which would otherwise apply a late fee charge that would cost more, pay an expensive car repair and even pay my utility bills.
So far, it has worked out for me because I always pay it in full and I only get an amount that I only need as well as an amount that I can afford to pay.
As they said, these industries are here because people patronize them and people need them and in the first place, they were conceived because people behind these industries felt that need.
Journal created: day before yesterday. Profile: almost entirely blank. Content: entirely blank. Just happens to wander into this journal entry and post a defense of America's least defensible industry. And then posts a link to one particular sub-prime lender.
How fucking stupid do you think we are? Jesus fucking Christ, if you're going to pull shit like this, at least put some work into it. You're just phoning it in. Even if you can look at yourself in the mirror after destroying people's lives for a living, you should at least be embarrassed at your lousy skills and terrible work ethic.
Track backed from the BS link you talked about. Basically, you hit the nail on the head as to why I want to get out of credit card collections in the worst way. The only thing keeping me sane is the irony that the "debt settlement" companies are even less ethical than the collection agencies. My employer is "only" loan-sharking through loose lending practices.
Sorry if I've said this before, but it bears repeating.
Insurance Companies - Depends, alot, look a BlueCross/Kaiser both of these (depending on the state, are non profit/not for profit)
Casino's - I know when I go into a Casino, any money I have in my pocket, with good odds will not be departing with me, however there is a difference between targeting, and preying, the lenders, prey, on people, because these people are stuck between a rock and a hard place, they have no choice in the matter, Gambling, however is no worse in my eyes, then a bar or a brewery, the market exists, they serve it, and in many states, the kind of advertising you mention is illegal.
When I was younger I screwed up my credit, since then I have worked on cash and carry only, and although its not been as easy as it could have been, im perhaps better for it.
One group you forgot to mention, Collection Agencies - I have been threated with having the sheriff sent out for me (which I know wont happen) now I usually just tell them im recording the call, and they go away.