Now that the first PATRIOT Act is up for renewal, the same old debate is going on as last time; the same sides are taking the same positions in policy journals, essays, websites, and op-eds in the national newspapers. Now that the PATRIOT Acts have been around for a long time, both sides are scouring recent history (or trying to, since the Act itself makes its usage hard to track) for both successes and abuses, and both sides are coming up with pretty thin gruel. If the PATRIOT Acts have lead to any significant successes in the (so-called, really long-since-over) War on Terror, nobody seems to be saying so. While the PATRIOT Acts have lead to documented cases of various government agencies using their new powers to spy on innocent people, nobody's found any evidence that any of them were particularly harmed by it, except in the vaguest sense of "wow, what a waste of taxpayer dollars."
So let me talk about three even older curtailments of privacy: ATM cameras and private surveillance video, DEA analysis of prescription writing, and the increasing use of Social Security numbers as unique identifiers.
Ever since the first ATMs put in cameras as anti-fraud and anti-theft devices, we've been periodically reminded that there's a permanent record of anything that happens within about a 45° cone from the front of the ATM, with a range that varies only based on lighting conditions and the increasing resolution of the cameras. Every business under the sun has also been putting up surveillance video cameras, and many of them keep a week's worth of tape (shot at about 3 frames per second) on file, so anything that happened anywhere near a business parking lot, or in sight of one, in the last week can be reasonably easily seen on video. Every time someone suggests an expansion of these cameras, such as stoplight cameras or street-light cameras, the same people claim that it's an invasion of privacy, and the same courts and experts remind people that US law clearly says that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy outdoors in a public place. In the many years since these cameras started being rolled out, what has the effect been? Especially lately, with resolution and retention improving, an awful lot of bank robbers and kidnappers and car thieves and other felons have been caught and convicted. Now, show me any large number of innocent people who were hurt by having their legal activities photographed or videotaped by an ATM camera or a parking lot camera?
(OK, I can think of two, both identical: on two separate occasions, people who were setting up fashion shows in malls didn't realize that they'd set up the models' dressing rooms in view of mall security cameras, and video leaked out for salacious purposes. Pretty thin harm, compared to how useful footage from other surveillance cameras has been in dealing with Amber Alerts.)
Whenever any doctor writes you a prescription for a drug that's popular on the street, a record gets created where the DEA can get to it pretty easily. Doctors who write a lot of such prescriptions get flagged for observation by human agents. So in theory, every time you've ever been prescribed Valium, or Tylenol 3, or Ritalin, a record of this fact gets stored somewhere that frankly isn't very secure; there are all kinds of people inside the DEA who can find this out. But the only time in recent history that I can think of those records being used in a way that revealed them to the public, especially to the general public, involved a public figure, loud-mouthed moralist and anti-drug crusader Rush Limbaugh. I'd say that that revelation served the public good.
Then there was this fascinating story in today's New York Times, and that's what got me thinking about this again: "CIA Expanding Terror Battle Under Guise of Charter Flights." What that's got to do with this is that the various successor companies to Air America were caught out by journalists because of various incursions into privacy rights that were written into the law over the years. If you own an airplane, you forfeit an awful lot of privacy rights right there: the tail number of your airplane goes into a database that's accessible to the public by law, and it reveals your home address and Social Security number to the world. I have yet to hear of any abuses of this, even though the regulations in question go back dozens of years. But when reporters got curious about the airplanes that the CIA was using to turn un-charged detainees over to 3rd party countries for torture, their job was made a lot easier by the fact that it's now a lot harder for the CIA to make up fictitious people to chair their front corporations. Sarbanes-Oxley and other securities laws make it easy to track the "real" owners of any company, the FAA regulations make it trivially easy to track any tail number to an owning company, and the wide variety of techniques that reporters and others have for tracking Social Security numbers bit the CIA on the backside. Reporters were able to prove that the SSNs in question were almost certainly fake, by proving that people who'd supposedly been born around 1949 were only issued SSNs in the late 1990s.
In other words, just about the only people whose actual privacy is getting invaded are public figures involved in wrong-doing. The same technologies and the same laws make it trivially easy for anyone to invade your privacy, too - but nobody cares enough to put the manpower on it. East Germany under Communist rule had no shortage of privacy-invading technologies, but in order to get any use out of them, they had to hire literally half of the population of the country to spy on the other half. This was one of the things that lead to the fall of the Berlin Wall; even Germans couldn't afford that much surveillance indefinitely. And even then, there were people engaged in anti-government activities who escaped the net. Trying to use surveillance on millions or hundreds of millions of people is too labor intensive to be practical. What's more, the rewards just aren't there. If the IRS or whatever were to somehow obtain the technology and the manpower to audit every tax return and surveil every taxpayer, they'd probably round up quite a bit of extra tax revenue. But to do it to any one individual taxpayer, the average reward is almost below the cost of obtaining the revenue; they only bother to spot-check randomly to inspire fear.
The people who have financial, military, police, or governmental power to hurt you have more to lose from loss of privacy than you do.
Now, I have to run out the door, so I'll say more about that last point later.
So let me talk about three even older curtailments of privacy: ATM cameras and private surveillance video, DEA analysis of prescription writing, and the increasing use of Social Security numbers as unique identifiers.
Ever since the first ATMs put in cameras as anti-fraud and anti-theft devices, we've been periodically reminded that there's a permanent record of anything that happens within about a 45° cone from the front of the ATM, with a range that varies only based on lighting conditions and the increasing resolution of the cameras. Every business under the sun has also been putting up surveillance video cameras, and many of them keep a week's worth of tape (shot at about 3 frames per second) on file, so anything that happened anywhere near a business parking lot, or in sight of one, in the last week can be reasonably easily seen on video. Every time someone suggests an expansion of these cameras, such as stoplight cameras or street-light cameras, the same people claim that it's an invasion of privacy, and the same courts and experts remind people that US law clearly says that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy outdoors in a public place. In the many years since these cameras started being rolled out, what has the effect been? Especially lately, with resolution and retention improving, an awful lot of bank robbers and kidnappers and car thieves and other felons have been caught and convicted. Now, show me any large number of innocent people who were hurt by having their legal activities photographed or videotaped by an ATM camera or a parking lot camera?
(OK, I can think of two, both identical: on two separate occasions, people who were setting up fashion shows in malls didn't realize that they'd set up the models' dressing rooms in view of mall security cameras, and video leaked out for salacious purposes. Pretty thin harm, compared to how useful footage from other surveillance cameras has been in dealing with Amber Alerts.)
Whenever any doctor writes you a prescription for a drug that's popular on the street, a record gets created where the DEA can get to it pretty easily. Doctors who write a lot of such prescriptions get flagged for observation by human agents. So in theory, every time you've ever been prescribed Valium, or Tylenol 3, or Ritalin, a record of this fact gets stored somewhere that frankly isn't very secure; there are all kinds of people inside the DEA who can find this out. But the only time in recent history that I can think of those records being used in a way that revealed them to the public, especially to the general public, involved a public figure, loud-mouthed moralist and anti-drug crusader Rush Limbaugh. I'd say that that revelation served the public good.
Then there was this fascinating story in today's New York Times, and that's what got me thinking about this again: "CIA Expanding Terror Battle Under Guise of Charter Flights." What that's got to do with this is that the various successor companies to Air America were caught out by journalists because of various incursions into privacy rights that were written into the law over the years. If you own an airplane, you forfeit an awful lot of privacy rights right there: the tail number of your airplane goes into a database that's accessible to the public by law, and it reveals your home address and Social Security number to the world. I have yet to hear of any abuses of this, even though the regulations in question go back dozens of years. But when reporters got curious about the airplanes that the CIA was using to turn un-charged detainees over to 3rd party countries for torture, their job was made a lot easier by the fact that it's now a lot harder for the CIA to make up fictitious people to chair their front corporations. Sarbanes-Oxley and other securities laws make it easy to track the "real" owners of any company, the FAA regulations make it trivially easy to track any tail number to an owning company, and the wide variety of techniques that reporters and others have for tracking Social Security numbers bit the CIA on the backside. Reporters were able to prove that the SSNs in question were almost certainly fake, by proving that people who'd supposedly been born around 1949 were only issued SSNs in the late 1990s.
In other words, just about the only people whose actual privacy is getting invaded are public figures involved in wrong-doing. The same technologies and the same laws make it trivially easy for anyone to invade your privacy, too - but nobody cares enough to put the manpower on it. East Germany under Communist rule had no shortage of privacy-invading technologies, but in order to get any use out of them, they had to hire literally half of the population of the country to spy on the other half. This was one of the things that lead to the fall of the Berlin Wall; even Germans couldn't afford that much surveillance indefinitely. And even then, there were people engaged in anti-government activities who escaped the net. Trying to use surveillance on millions or hundreds of millions of people is too labor intensive to be practical. What's more, the rewards just aren't there. If the IRS or whatever were to somehow obtain the technology and the manpower to audit every tax return and surveil every taxpayer, they'd probably round up quite a bit of extra tax revenue. But to do it to any one individual taxpayer, the average reward is almost below the cost of obtaining the revenue; they only bother to spot-check randomly to inspire fear.
The people who have financial, military, police, or governmental power to hurt you have more to lose from loss of privacy than you do.
Now, I have to run out the door, so I'll say more about that last point later.
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Basically he was using the camera to take note of PINS and, I guess, get the license number of the car to identify the user. I am not sure how the rest of this scam works, but he would somehow get a hold of the cards, and then make his own withdrawals.
So these cameras are not just taking a bite out of crime, but occasionally giving crime a few teeth as well.
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I take issue with this if only because the very sense of violation is a very real psychological issue. Sure, people will "get over it," but it still doesn't mean it's right. I've had things stolen from my car. It was the first time I ever felt violated like that. I didn't think I would feel that way, as anti-property as I am. But I did feel violated, despite my seemingly uncaring attitude towards my personal effects.
It also must be remembered that this violation goes into sneak'n'peak searches, which can really fuck with someone's head if they've not done anything, and do notice something out of place.
What about the right to read and absorb knowledge free from Gov't intrusion? The aspects of the USA PATRIOT Act that allow for such interference... What say you of that?
I DO tend to agree with you on the public/private dichotomy. However, the biggest problem that I have with that is that it leads certain individuals (i.e. those with property) to have more rights than others (i.e. homeless people). Especially concerning to me is the tendency towards ever more aristocratic forms of organization in this economy, and our descent towards a modern form of feudalism. This reminds me of Jaron Lanier's thought processes on privacy. He essentially says we must scrap the whole concept. In a libertarian society, sure, but not in this police state, where prison are for-profit corporations and there is thus a financial incentive in making things illegal.
The issue with the DEA keeping records of opiate prescriptions is bothersome to me because as it currently stands, because there's a certain paranoia around prescribing these meds to people who need it... Doctors thus become leery of prescribing the proper doses of medication and people with chronic pain have to suffer because of our police-state tactics. It's not, to me, an issue of who knows who's taking what, but rather, what the impact is upon the patient/doctor relationship, which is continually being eroded in the name of the power of the State. Of course, this is assuming a "truly"(as true as could be possible) contractual/voluntary association, and not some relationship that allows the doctor to manipulate the patient... In such a case, I believe the state should be involved, but only at the request of the individual.
"East Germany under Communist rule had no shortage of privacy-invading technologies..."
However, that was in the 70s and 80s... Technology has advanced much since then, and costs have gone down. This includes more intelligent software that has better pattern recognition abilities. Oh, I know that we're nowhere near close to a fascist big-brother state... But the question becomes: Where do you draw the line? "It's not my problem." The retort of cowards everywhere. As long as it doesn't affect me, why should I give a fuck? Because, it's a moral obligation to stand up for universal rights. If these rights are not universal, they are thus arbitrary, and arbitrary rules and rights are not law, but chaos.
"The people who have financial, military, police, or governmental power to hurt you have more to lose from loss of privacy than you do."
This may be true... But, I would argue that this is why "they" try to limit the flow of information through a one-way conduit. It's why Big Media wants to control the airwaves. It's why GWB and his cronies want to drastically reduce the application of the FOIA, why they claim "executive privilege"...
Privacy isn't important, except when it comes to their privacy. Even so, what does that mean? What sort of harm is going to happen to any of them? Do you think a single one of them will rot in jail for the crimes they've committed? What about an individual pot-smoker who got busted, though they've committed no violent crime (and spare me the "drugs fund terrorism" argument, if you believe it, which I'd assume you don't... at the very least, you have a deeper understanding of it, I'd guess, than what they portray on TV). This individual will likely suffer grave harm, especially if they have to go to prison.
In such a case, I would argue that those who "lose face" don't lose nearly as much as those who actually get punished for much lesser crimes. In this sense, I don't think that "their" loss of privacy is more dangerous to them, than our loss of privacy is to us.
Sorry for the redundancies. I know, most of this is nit-picking, more than really dealing with issues. Oh well...
The state of property ownership doesn't grant you rights. You have the same natural rights whether you happen to be a billionaire or a homeless person with nothing but the clothes on your back. You have the same rights if you're living naked on a tropical island all by yourself.
Whether it is fundamentally fair that a wealthy person can obtain a prestigious and skilled attorney to escape or lessen punishments to which a homeless person would be subjected after their public defender fumbles the ball--and the even thornier question of whether we should do anything about this fundamental unfairness--is a separate issue. But it is not that the wealthy person has any mysterious "wealthy-person-only" rights that the homeless person does not.
1) The nature of "rights": That is to say... "What is a right?" I shall limit it in this context to the issue of privacy (which is really what I meant to say.) Privacy is not a "right" in the US Constitution, though we cherish it an awful lot. That said, assuming that we do appreciate and honor it as a right, there is still a discrepency. It naturally follows that if someone has property to live on, they have a certain amount of privacy which a homeless person, without that property, does not have. You can talk semantics and say they still have that right. But de facto denial of granted rights essentially means NO right.
It would be as if I were to give you a thousand dollars, and then told you: You just can't spend it. You can have it all you want. But what good is it if it can't be put into use? Now, seeing as how I used the term "right" instead of "privacy" you are correct. In theory we have public defenders who are supposed to be as skilled as expensive attorneys... Of course we all know that's completely not true. I'm not going to argue that with you.
2) The other issue I am curious to know about is the question of the origin of rights. If, as you say "we all have the same rights" (you use the term natural right, which appears to be taken from a more Constitutional, perhaps Libertarian (as in the party) point of view. Pleas correct me if I'm wrong.), where are these rights derived from? The founding fathers were Deists and appropriately used their reasoning to derive a set of rights based upon their philosophical premise.
I tend to follow Mao's statement that "power flows from the barrel of a gun." This is the source of "right." Not from a personal ethics (Theory) standpoint, but from a political and sociological standpoint (Praxis.) If we have different view of the origins of right, then we may never come to agreement. So be it.
3) What are these rights of which I speak? The issue of privacy, as I noted, is not guaranteed in the constitution. I add my own rights to what I perceive as sociological rights that are to be granted (ie: they are not natural, since I don't believe that they are ordained by "nature and nature's god.") These rights are the right to necessities of survival (Food, Shelter, Clothing, (clean) Water) And also the right to improve ones condition (this includes Education, Communication and Transportation. Especially the right to education, and higher education at that.)
I note that these rights are not to be construed as being equal in terms of ownership. There should be a minimum standard for all, but people don't automatically have a right to big designer name clothes, or a nice mansion.
Since my philosophy is always evolving and my knowledge is quite limited, I will not say that this is complete truth, even though I feel a moral conviction towards it's rightness. I am still working on how this applies in terms of distribution. Does a rich person have a right to better health care than a poor person? Do they have a right to make billions of dollars? My personal stance is "no." I am interested in hearing alternative POV's, but right now, I think wealth disparity and the feudalism that we still live in is quite dangerous to an individual's rights. I could also touch upon the issue of Maslow's Hierarchy, and how that it serves our corporate/feudal system to limit satisfaction of these basic needs (as animals and social creatures.) It makes more "holes" to fill.
Whether or not people have been hurt, and how much, is a discussion about facts, measurable and observable facts. Whether or not the PATRIOT Acts have done any good is a discussion about facts, measurable and observable facts. And what I'm saying is that in that sense, nobody has had any luck showing any actual good they've done or any actual harm they've done, and I find that interesting.
You're right. It is. Just trying to avoid thread hijacking, cuz I know you don't like it. :)
Whenever the government thinks that some group of Americans might be agents of an enemy foreign power because they seem to be doing what enemy agents would be doing under the same circumstances, then no matter which party is in power, they send the FBI and/or local cops to check them out. Don't say they should have to have proof that someone's an enemy spy before they spy on them; spying on them is how they get proof. Checking them out always involves joining under false pretenses, and then testing whether or not they're a dangerous group by trying to egg them on towards violence and seeing how they respond. Always. So if, during wartime, you try to impede the war, you're a total freaking moron if you think you aren't going to be spied upon. You should have been expecting it from the moment you opened your mouth or wrote word one. And if you were expecting it, then where's the outrage coming from?
As for the wealthy having more power to preserve their privacy than the poor do, and more power to control disclosure, I suggest to you that your understanding of how information surfaces, leaks, flows, spreads, and is used is at least ten years out of date.
Hmmmmm. Just to play Devil's Advocate: Isn't it possible to believe that something is unconstitutional, and should be struck down as such by the courts, and even be morally outraged at it, and yet at the same time accept that it is a reality of life for the time being? If one is, say, a black person in the rural South in the 1960s, and one believes that voter intimidation is unconstitutional, it seems appropriate to be outraged about it, even if one goes to polling places fully expecting to be intimidated, harassed, or even assaulted. If I believe that forbidding same-sex couples to marry is unconstitutional, can't I still be outraged about the reality of such forbiddance, even as I recognize that it is a part of the American social and legal landscape, even as I am completely unsurprised when I show up at my county courthouse looking to marry a man and am summarily thrown out on my ear?
Looking back at your original post, here's one sentence that stuck out for me:
While the PATRIOT Acts have lead to documented cases of various government agencies using their new powers to spy on innocent people, nobody's found any evidence that any of them were particularly harmed by it, except in the vaguest sense of "wow, what a waste of taxpayer dollars."
I'm not sure a showing of direct harm is the only threshold for unconstitutionality that we should be concerned about. There is timeworn current of thought in constitutional law that some government actions are wrong not only because they tread on rights, but because they constitute a "both cruel and unjust" abuse of the innocent by those that wield that power. (See, for example, Boyd vs United States.) In other words, abuse of power can be intrisically wrong in principle, even if "nobody got hurt this time".
The overall thrust of this entry, however, seems to be about the practical realities of the PATRIOT Act, and I can appreciate your point.